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  Dennis : Journier

So, What About Tibet?

Dennis said Apr 7, 10:05 PM:

 

So, what about Tibet?  What about China?  Is this just the way of the world, the interpretation of energy into expressions of power and powerlessness?  What is so different about this situation and the countless other situations throughout history where one country controls another?

Two traditions to dealing with these situations are acceptance, where the the controlled country accepts the control and, over a period of time, gradually becomes assimilated into the controling country.  The other tradition is revolt, rebellion, revolution, which may or may not eventually lead to the separation of the two countries. 

If the first tradition, there may be harm done to people for, even in the act of acceptance, it is the norm for the controlling country to, at some point, make example of its power to the controlled in order to leave no doubt about who is in command of what.

In the second tradition, there is always violence, lives taken, horrors accomplished by both sides, eons of karma concetrated into at least one generation.  Much of what we call history is derived from such traditions.

Would a person seeking after enlightenment take the side of Tibet and join into whatever revolt or revolution which may be gearing up?  Can a person seeking after enlightenment take the side of China?  Would it be more spiritually correct to stay in the middle and pray for the peaceful reconciliation that will free all involved from attachment to violence and hate?

If you would protest against China, do you do so in an indescriminate manner, marking anything or anyone which is Chinese as a target?  Such actions can bring great discomfort and fear to ordinary people who just happen to be Chinese.  How then do you target the government of China for protest without also casting your net over the ordinary citizen?

And how do you get a country to listen to you unless you have such power of some type or form that they cannot turn you away?  And what happens to that power after it is listened to?
If peace is won, or peace is lost, deep down in the fire used to melt the sealing wax for the treaty are smouldering embers of hate and harm; just waiting for the right drift of air to send them up.

So, do you protest to China, or do you protest against the countries which trade with China or who are militarily aligned with China?  Why stop there, why not protest the countries which deal with the countries which deal with China?  We can start right here in Iowa, in every town and city and county and state all the way to Washington DC and the benevolent concerns of our Congress and Presidency.

Can we change anything by protest if CNN or the BBC aren't angling for the best shots and the most air time.  And what about the protestor and the protested?  Could they meet latter at Clancey's Place and have a beer or two and a good meal and talk about pleasanter times?  It could happen you know, brother against brother, sister against sister, cousin against cousin, nephew against uncle, ect., ect.

People whose perspective of God includes the manifestation of energy into some type of aimable power will do more to energize the movement and the protests.  But how about those of us whose path runs to gentler aspects?

Blessing and Peace

  lucky13 : LEARNER

Re: So, What About Tibet?

lucky13 said Jun 2, 8:43 PM:

 

Honestly, I think about China and Tibet everyday of my life. I don't lknow at this point what religion I can claim to, but the Dalai Lama is by far my inspriration or “hero” in life. He is like the pope, but with a lot more of his own ideas about compassion.

If there was anything I could do, I would. I wish I could meet the dalai lama. Just being in his precence would make me feel better. If you could find a way for us to help the tibetians or anything, don't be afraid to contact me. I am as serious as you are.


skylar

  Dennis : Journier

Re: So, What About Tibet?

Dennis said Jun 15, 10:11 PM:

 

Lucky13:

I know how you feel.  Since I first began learning about Buddhism, I have harboured a secrect desire to meet and speak with the Dali Lama.  From what I understand, he has a very stong mind and a charismatic personality; very good attributes for one in his position.

But, as I have learned latter in my journey, be carefule of your desires.  When I first held the desire to meet the Dali Lama, I felt that, if only I could spend a few moments with him in quiet discussion, everything would be answered and that I would, in very short order thereafter, know everythning worth knowing.

It is good for me I never had the opportunity to meet the man.  Since that time, it has become my understanding that, as God is more vast than any one lifetime of learning, we are allowed to return through several lives, each time learning a different perspective of God, each time finding different answers to different questions.

What this boils down to is one cannot let someone elses answers define your questions, nor can you be so awed by someone elses questions that you cannot consider any other answers other than the ones belonging to the questions of others.

One must always be respectful of the questions and answers of others; we are all in this together, and the sharing of questions and answers in good conversation allows all to learn and grow, whether or not they are directly related to your journey.

I seem to remember a phrophecy related to Buddhism, which goes something like, at some point, Buddishism will completely disappear from the knowledge of mankind, and beutterly and totally  lost for 1,000 years; after which time the next Buddha will awaken and rediscover Buddhism, thereby creating a millenium of peace and compassion.

Someone please correct me about this if I am incorrect.  I have been trying to verify this for a couple of days, but have been unable to.

I have been thinking that, perhaps, the actions of China is one  of the methods which will drive Buddhism into the shadows.  If so, on which side does one strive?  The sooner all is forgotten, the sooner the clock starts ticking on the 1,000 years.  On the other hand, how can the suffering and the injustices involved in the process be allowed to proceed?

There is a similar situation existing within the relationship between severy fundamental Christian denominations and Israel.  They believe that Jesus will reappear at the time of the battle for Armaggeddon, and, having destroyed Satan and his evel forces, Jesus will then set up a Christian government which will rule with peace and love for 1,000 years.

So, these fundament Chrisian denominations watch the conflict in the middle east very closely, many times secretly rooting for the terrorists, quietly encouraging those actions which could conceivably inch one further step ahead on the road to total war between the ultimate good and the ultimate evil.

Oh, the things we are willing to do in order that our Gods will at some point prove their love for us in a manner we cannot misunderstand. 

So, if you should ask a question, and someone gives you an answer which completely satysfies your question, then that was the answer you needed.  If the answer leaves pieces and parts of your question uncovered, then you must keep asking that questions, no matter who has answered it before.

And if you could answer my question concerning Buddhism and the 1,000 year disappearence of it, I would be most appreciative; and probably have a few more questions after that.  And so it goes.

Blessings And Peace

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