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  barlowgirl94 : the gurl of ur dreams...

*enlightenment is*

barlowgirl94 said Mar 29, 11:47 AM:

Is looking at someone else's point of veiw & what their going through, while still thinking about what you're going through, too. America needs to step up & go into some else's point of veiw. Some people call me 'close minded” but, I beg to differ. I think open mindedly and then I go with that. I have times of dout, have to admit. But when people critisize me, it only makes me stronger. And that's what America needs to do.

  Eric Putkonen :  

Re: *enlightenment is*

Eric Putkonen said Apr 17, 6:39 AM:

America may need this…but it is not enlightenment.

Namaste,


~ Eric Putkonen

  Alx : karmatalk ma

Re: *enlightenment is*

Alx said Apr 17, 5:12 PM:

hey, Barlow girl!

I agree that America needs what you're describing, but to my mind it's more about empathy, what you're describing – not really 'enlightened' per se. 

just my two cents.

Alx

  Michael : Promise Keeper

Re: *enlightenment is*

Michael said Apr 17, 6:09 PM:

I agree with you. It is “enlightenment,” or at least a sign of it, to be able to see from different perspectives.

  Soul : Being

Re: *enlightenment is*

Soul said Jun 18, 5:27 PM:

Barlow girl… your view is your right…


Again…this thread is not meant to be a place to agree, argue, or disagree with people's views on what enlightenment is…
some people  just can't help themselves can they : )

  Soul : Being

Re: *enlightenment is*

Soul said Jun 20, 5:36 PM:

Oh woops … i'm on the wrong thread….

 : )

  Dennet : The Spiral Inquirer

Re: *enlightenment is*

Dennet said Jun 18, 1:46 PM:

I think what America needs, is the same with the rest of the world.

The evolution if higher thinking amongst every single individual. A journey into self, finding personal truths and having the courage to dream big resulting in people banding together and creating anew.

Starting with grassroots community building. Looking after each others Rights and creating environments that nurture, developing a community which is strong, intimate and peaceful. Defying the Corporate, the governments and the media with self-power and self-reliance.

I think enlightenment is not a singular journey, but a journey the whole of humanity should strive TOGETHER. I think it is selfish and futile a journey that is taken alone. But hand in hand, mind to mind, intention with intention, i do believe, we will overcome.

Dennet.

You weren't an accident. You weren't mass produced. You aren't an assembly-line product. You were deliberately planned, specifically gifted, and lovingly positioned on the Earth by the Master Craftsman.

~ Max Lucado

  Alx : karmatalk ma

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Alx said Jun 23, 3:44 PM:

hi, Dennet and Martin –

having been a serious spiritual student for many years, I can add my voice happily to the aria about communal enlightenment rather than individual enlightenment.  my experience is that the depth of enlightenment can't flow easily to any individual – it really comes to whole groups working together, regardless of personality issues or differences of surface opinions at any given moment.  

a group working together – and that can be a group as small as a few people, and as large as a continent's population – ! – or the world at large! – offers buffers and protections from all kinds of daily illusion and challenges to spiritual attainment that a single person would find impossible to create for themself.

it's also true that as one group attains a certain level of spiritual awareness or awakeness, the 100th Monkey effect starts to apply, and suddenly…..  whatever small sparks were lit up can be expanded into a real blaze of light.

and I agree, the world really needs this.  especially now.

Alx

  sandy : Aussie Activist

Re: *enlightenment is*

sandy said Jun 23, 3:53 PM:

Not an easy task Alx !

While group enlightenment is what we are seeking -
I don't think we have achieved that well enough, yet -
although we are on the road to doing so.

We need to love one another and work together to achieve this
on Gaia, and I feel we need to work on the collective issue.

S

  Alx : karmatalk ma

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Alx said Jun 24, 12:46 AM:

hi, Sandy –

no, it's not an 'easy task' –*grinning about the immense challenge of diverse personalities* – but it's pretty simple: united we stand, divided we fall.   

I think you'd be surprised at the depth of enlightenment experiences happening, today, in the world as a result of relatively small groups of people doing profound group work, meditation, and high spiritual processes.   within a few years, I have little doubt that hundreds of thousands of people will be practicing deep spiritual work with one another – well beyond the surface level of what passes for normal human life right now. 

as the consciousness increases, suffering tends to diminish – and that opens up doorways for humanity that most of us would, I suspect, find fantastical right now.

but it IS happening, and powerfully.

Alx

  sandy : Aussie Activist

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sandy said Jun 24, 12:54 AM:

hi -yes I know it is happening, that is true.

But it still seems so slow and putting it together like a huge jigsaw!

While I know there are groups of people, putting it altogether -it is the
alignement of the groups that seems to be an impediment, at times.

Just like Religion -still divided -just like the Political slogan-keep the
people apart.

I don't believe we are accepting enough of each other's enlightenment.

They say as one door closes, another open's -but we need them
ALL to be open.

S

  Alx : karmatalk ma

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Alx said Jun 24, 2:37 PM:

hey, Sandy –

don't despair…  behind the scenes, it's happening a lot faster than anyone might think.

keep up the hope and inspiration.

Alx

  Martin Gifford : Grandiose, Unrealistic, Arrogant, and Ejected

Re: *enlightenment is*

Martin Gifford said Jun 20, 4:16 AM:

Dennet wrote: “I think enlightenment is not a singular journey, but a journey the whole of humanity should strive TOGETHER.”

That is beautiful!

Well said!

  ange : dawn song

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ange said Jun 24, 5:47 PM:


Perhaps as we all become enlightened we will begin to see more enlightenment in others,
perhaps reflected back to us…

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