Zaadz: New World Awakening: In the Guidance of the Mayan Calendar

Re: NAC - Native American Church!

Sun, 18 May 2008 03:33:54 -0000

Wow Carlos. Thank you for sharing that. I believe that was powerful. I want to go to a NAC meeting sometime, and sit in the ceremony. Do you have any contacts, or know where I might find a contact in my area (southern Cali) for that? How would I become prepared and eligible to participate?

Andrew

An Interesting Web Seminar on 2012 and the Mayan Calendar

Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:40:06 -0000

My friends from the Mayan Calendar Code has prepared a very interesting web seminar on the connection between 2012 and the Mayan Calendar.
It seems that they are giving sound information that will help people to differntiate between facts and fictions.

Here is the link to it:

http://www.mayan-calendar-code.com/mayan-calendar-2012-connection-course.html

In lak'ech

Re: Hello from Matterik

Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:01:58 -0000

The mayan calendar is an exoteric version of the globalization agenda. It has no real bases in truth. Most people know this.

The mayan calendar is really a masonic lie for the profane. Maya is just I am backwords. Just like jesus is je suis. I am is something you have to say in masonic rituals.

Check out the movie the man who would be king.

the masons run the globalization agenda and the new age movements, including the mayan calendar movement. They spin things into hinduism. The reason hinduism is so important to indoctrinate the people with nowadays is that there is a plan for a massive depopulation of the world. People who believe in hinduism dont believe in death so they will allow others to be killed without caring.

Check out my blog http://mayancalendar.blogspot.com.

Also please check the free audio at http://cuttingthroughthematrix.com
Alan Watt (not alan watts) is a great person at explaining the new age and how it is run today and before in history. Everything can be understood. Including the earth worship religion that is forced onto the children today through the educational system and through religions like new age, mayan calendar etc.

The whole culture creation industry, hollywood etc has been run by the CIA the last 50 years and still is. The conspiracy movement, alistair crowley etc is also run by MI6. The new age is a religion given to the people with this globalization. The people are fed easily digested ideas from the old perennial religion so that they will remain docile as they are sheaparded through the globalization. It is all run by the masons all of it. And I am not talking about the blue lodge. There are many lodges outside of freemasonry, like the bnai brith, odd fellows, order of templars orientalis, skull of bones etc.

If you expose the truth, the movement tried to attack your character. They claim you are mentally ill or something like that to destroy you. But the truth remains the truth.

Best regards Matterik

No Globalist here!

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:31:53 -0000

Hey Matterick,
I am sorry you feel the way you do about this calendar.

Let me present a few observations. How can the Mayan calendar be part of an agenda for corporate globalists? What possible motive could they have to make anyone use this calendar?

It is basic, historically self-evident, that the Mayan people have always been at odds with the powers-that-be, including the Catholic Church, international corporations, Jesuits, right-wing militias in Guatemala and the Mexican and US governments. Please remember that the Zapatista movement is a purely Mayan phenomena, and they are no fans of Globalization.

So why would their sacred calendar be chosen as a tool of the Elite One-world corporate fascists?

Your arguments make no sense. Your words betray your bitterness.

The truth is that the REAL Mayan calendar, not Dreamspell for sure, but the ancient Sacred 260-day calendar will be our salvation beginning right now!

I have to many stories justifying my position to relate them here, check out my book Cosmicjaguar's Soul Kin Journal, and start using it as your own journal to find YOUR truth!

Love and Blessings to all,
Carlos Cedillo
www.cosmicjaguar.com
www.SacredTime260.ning.com

A new website about the mayan calendar...

Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:56:05 -0000

Dear Friends,

My Turkish friend in Australia Tekin, together with another firend created a new website that explains the Mayan calendar..

It looks very interesting... There are some new insights about the maths of the Mayan calendar.

and here is the adress:
www.kincompass.com

In Lak'ech,
Fatih 8 Kan

Re: We have entered the Fifth Night - Is anything happening?

Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:27:59 -0000

Dear Friends,

I know that I am not communicating very often these days. Seems like I am on a 5ht Night sleep. :) But the reality is there are many major changes in my life and a lot of new and exciting projects are on the way that are asking for my full commitment...

But still this group has a big part in my heart and I would like to share whatever, whenever I can.... Talkin about the Mayan calendar we are approaching the Fourth World of the galactic underworld. It will start August 15 2008 and will end with the other cycles of the Mayan calendar, which is Oct 28 2011. I want to write an article on the importance of this very soon. But the signs of this new shift is allready coming..

Recently there is a big change happening in Guetamala. It is something that proves how intensively the world is changing.

The president from Guatemala Eng.Alvaro Colom Caballeros will now officialy give a seat and a office to the representetives for the MAYAN in Guatemala. Aproximatly on August, 8th 2008, ( 7 - KAN)

Exciting is not it? At the end of my message you can find an email from a German friend Barbara, that explains the event.

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By the way, I would like to say something about Matterik and his views that he shared here on the pod..

My friend Matterik,
It is really diffucult to follow up what you are doing. You were running a website that was completely supporting Calleman and his theories. Then you shifted your opinion and started to say that this is all a freud and there is no scientific basis to Calleman's resarch. After this, on April this year, you wrote the message in this thread, depending entirely on Calleman's theory.... Then you came up with your conspiracy theories and mentioned that the Mayan calendar is not the truth and truth cannot be changed or something like that...
Now I am listening to your podcast and AGAIN you are talking as if you are supporting Calleman's theory (when you mention about the 5th day and 5th night, vice versa, it means that you recognize the Mayan calendar).

Long story short, I am observing a huge inconsistency in your views.... I think you are really confused and you need to clarify what you are communicating....
I think this is related with the Monkey (Chuen) side of yours... You want be the center of attention and you can do any trick to be under the spotlight....
I dont have any problems with you being on the stage, but I hope this performance of yours leads humanity to enlightenment, clarity and truth....

And still, in all cases I do have compassion for you, as you are another me....

In Lak'ech,

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Dear Carl, and beloved friends arround the world,

I am happy to pass on the information which I received yesterday ( 6- CABAN ) by phonecall from Adam Yellowbird
www.earthworksforhumanity.org

The president from Guatemala Eng.Alvaro Colom Caballeros will now officialy give a seat and a office to the representetivs for the MAYAN in Guatemala,
aproximatly on August, 8th 2008, ( 7 -KAN in the Trecena of ETZNAB - what a perfect Period of time )
which will be a big event with Tata Don Alejandro and his members.
A camera-team will follow this and keep this for the world as a historical Moment.

Since over 500 years , on scedule now, in the Trecena of EB this most very important step will come true.
The MAYA and with the representetivs for other indigenius groups in South-America, will become a voice
in the Parlament of Guatemala.

Please feel free and be happy to share this information.
Get in Contact with Adam Yellowbird to know all more about this.

Since I write you from germany and I will pass the information as well to all MAYA-Daykeeper in interessted folks in Germany as well ,
I have put this actual information on my web-site as well as in my Forum board, and other boards for information and
and for anyone who can read german.

http://www.indalosia.de/mayan-aktuell.htm ( just scrolle down a little bit )

and

http://mayatruecount.siteboard.de/mayatruecount-about295.html

LOVE AND PEACE TO ALL OF YOU
IN LAK 'ECH
INDALOSIA-BARBARA

5 Water video

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:34:28 -0000

Re: 5 Water video

Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:55:51 -0000

5 Muluc: It rained here (Coburn, PA) all day, too!

~ the scribe

Re: NAC - Native American Church!

Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:25:09 -0000

HI Andrew,
Sorry for the delayed reply....

I used to go to the deserts of Mexico to gather peyote and make my own little ceremony. That was in the '90s. I met some folks in the NAC here in San Antonio and the Texas Hill Country.
I don't know of any groups in Cali, but I imagine it must be there.
The meetings are very intense, and it is good to get yourself invited and be very very polite to whoever is in charge. There is lots of protocol to learn real fast!

Best Wishes,
Carlos Cedillo
www.cosmicjaguar.com

Re: A new website about the mayan calendar...

Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:22:14 -0000

Thanks for the info. In this calendar, I noticed that the sign of one's birthday is the day before if the birth time is before day break. Is that the case?

~ the scribe

Kin Compass, check it out!!!!

Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:44:32 -0000

http://www.kincompass.com/

This is an incredible new tool for a deeper understanding the Mayan calendar.

Take some time to explore!
-Carlos

Re: A new website about the mayan calendar...

Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:27:52 -0000

Hello Scribe sky...

This is a good question.
The shift hour from one sign to another is not the midnight. According to both Calleman's and my experiences the new sign starts to rull by the day break...

By the way in this site please check the time zone option be sure you are at the right time zone...

Love,
Fatih

Re: Kin Compass, check it out!!!!

Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:05:28 -0000

I know! I like it. I haven't tried the embed code yet, looking forward to it.

~ the scribe

TRACK DOWN: Mayan Calendar 2012 Connection

Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:15:04 -0000

Hello Folks,

I am not sure if I shared this link before. So here I am posting it again:

http://www.mayan-calendar-code.com/mayan-calendar-2012-connection-course.html

In Lak'ech

The Ambassador for the Indigenous People of Guatemala

Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:55:54 -0000

Institute for Cultural Awareness Announces
Grandfather Alejandro Cirilo Perez Oxlaj is named Ambassdor
for the Indigenous People of Guatemala

Guatemala City, Guatemala- August 9, 2008 13th generation Maya Kiche Spiritual leader and President of the National Mayan Council of Elders of Guatemala, Grandfather Alejandro Cirilo Perez Oxlaj has been chosen by the Guatemalen President Alvaro Colom as Ambassador for the Indigenous people of Guatemala. August 9, 2008 was the date chosen for the inauguration ceremonies of Grandfather Oxlaj's new position to commemorate the day of Indigenous People of the World.

Inauguration ceremonies will begin on August 9 at 10am with a tradtional Mayan fire ceremony and will precede with speeches from invited representatives. ICA president, Adam Yellowbird is honor to have been asked to speak and represent North America. Adam is traveling from Arizona to Guatemala with ICA Executive Director, Carmen Gudin and Francisco Quiroga of Colombia representing South America." "

Spritual this Ambassador position represents...

Provide answers to who, what, where, when, why and how. Many reporters do not read beyond the first paragraph, so be sure to convey key information upfront.

Provide real, usable information. Avoid a slick sales pitch. Reporters are only interested in the facts.

ICA sponsors Elders Gathering & Sacred Peru~Bolivia Pilgrimage this fall

Machu PicchuLast year ICA was privileged to sponsor Bridging the Americas- Reuniting the Eagle and Condor gathering in Peru. During that event, ICA's President, Adam Yellowbird comitted to sponsor an elders gathering in Northern Arizona in the Spring of 2009. Because the elders were unable to coordinate the 2008 gathering in Mexico, the elders from South America have asked for ICA to be ambassadors of the North and help coordinate a 2008 gathering in Bolivia this fall. ICA has agreed to sponsor Bridging the Americas: Coming Home, Reuniting the Eagle and Condor gathering in Bolivia, September 17-21, 2008. The elders of South America will be receiving us in Charazani Valley in Bolivia which is considered a very sacred valley where the Aymara medicine people come from. At this time, ICA has confirmed five grandmothers to attend the elders gathering in Bolivia following a sacred pilgrimage throughout Peru.

On September 5, 2008, ICA begins the work in Lima, Peru and travels to the Amazon jungle in Iquitos for sacred work with the Shipibo medicine people of that region. We continue to Cuzco, Ollantaytambo and Machu Picchu. We then fly up to Lake Titicaca region and visit sacred altars there. We will visit with Indigenous people of the Villa Socco community, Uros Island, Island of the Sun and Moon. Following our sacred pilgrimage throughout Peru and Bolivia, we move towards Charazani Valley in Bolivia for the heart of the trip; the elders gathering with Grandfathers and Grandmothers from various regions. For ICA this sacred work is necessary and culminates to our Return of the Ancestors Gathering scheduled for April 18-28, 2009.

Mayan calendar software for Macintosh!

Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:17:53 -0000

Hello All,

My friends from Mayan Calendar Code has announced that there is a true count calculator for Mac.
If you have a MAC and want a True Calculator download it now. No charge for this.
This is not shareware.

Here's the link:
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/25773/chac

Love,
Fatih, 8 Kan

Re: No Globalist here!

Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:27:21 -0000

Well you really have to understand the concept of inclusive diversity to understand it all.

But lets explain something else first.

What is happening in the world is a major change. It is world wide. There is endemic unemployment due to the microeletronic revolution. There is a generation, called generation X, that will many of them never see work in there life time. Children today have been inoculated through the vaccination programs so that they have brain damages like ADHD and autism. This has all been done by the elite because they think that we are too many on earth.

Since the 70's they have stepped up the vaccination programs. Read jonas salks books.

What the mayan calendar does is tell you to not look at the negative because then you might cocreate negative stuff. This is to make sure that people never see what is happening to them. Many will die before they realise that they are being killed. The war today is not on russia or China or africa. The was is against everyone who is not part of the super elite.

The mayan calendar was created by someone who worked for the World health organization, called carl johan calleman. I think he had read the books by the club of rome , agenda 21 , etc. So he understood the big plan, or he was informed of it as he worked as an expert there. Either way, the mayan calendar as created by Carl johan calleman is just a kind of a mirror image of the agenda, the plan that they made in the 70's and 80' and 90's. You can read the books that they themselves put out if you go to :

http://readinglist.matterik.com
http://sources.matterik.com

There is a wonderful site out there from someone who has been working with implementing agenda 21. It is called :
http://green-agenda.com

The gaia stuff was also invented by these club or rome people. And so was the global consiousness project that calleman has been talking about. It is all financed by the club of rome people.

I have done a blogpost called "The Swedish New Age elite" that explains some of the stuff.

You see they made the plan to introduce the agenda through financing and helping NGO's that would make it all look like it was grass root movements. There is enormous intelligence behind the plan of the world. But it is not divine. It is all man made.

You might not be a globalist. But anyone who follows the mayan calendar belief system is told about that we are going towards this universal conscoiusness. This oneness stuff is also run by the club of rome. They have also other organizations like club of budapest and club of madrid and http://www.globalspirit.org/.

This people mean business and they own the monetary system. They are also behind the big scam about the green house gases and global warming. They own the scientific elite and basically own all countries since all countries today , almost all, are in debt. They have the military might of the US behind them and they control the media and all elections.

regards matterik

http://matterik.com

Re: No Globalist here!

Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:08:13 -0000

The Mayan Calendar was not created by Calleman..he just wrote a book or two about it.

Re: No Globalist here!

Sat, 20 Sep 2008 08:56:14 -0000

Well Matterik, it seems there is plenty of space for discussion. There are some points that I agree with you and some points that I don’t.

I haven’t seen the blog you created about Swedish New Age elite, (because you didn’t provide a link) but I can guess some of the targets there, like the so called Deeksha movement. Well, I was at the Oneness University in 2004 and I saw a collective Deeksha session led by Bhagavan. When the session was over I was the first person to leave the hall and I said “Deeksha is not my way”. Later on I was never converted into “deekshaism” even when I received deeksha from Calleman. On June 2006, when Freddy Nielsen, the first western decipher of Bhagavan and the initiator of the western deeksha movement turned away from the movement, I was not surprised.

I think there are many deficiencies of the New Age movement and I certainly do not support it the way I used to do between 2004 and 2008 (these days I am questioning it a lot). I am definitely aware of the illusions, delusions and phantasmagoric aspects of it. People are filled with a lot of hope and motivation, and inspired by strong visions, like that of Sri Aurobindo (whom I respect a lot). However, I do not see many actual steps taken in terms of spiritual evolution. There are still a lot of real, concrete and divinely guided steps to take, for the world to come to a Sattvic age, as the Vedic knowledge supposes. These observations of mine have become clearer after I dropped out any “New Age” technique and started practicing Yoga in an almost traditional way. I refer to Agama Yoga at this point where I studied for 5 months in Thailand this year. Currently I am exploring the depths of Sufist psychology and the bottom line is the same: There is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.

On this part of the discussion I seem to agree with you. I think the world has a lot of darkness in it (vaccination programs, collective mind control, etc) and I talk about these issues in depth at my workshops. We cannot free the world unless we free ourselves from living and consuming habits that decrease our consciousness. The Mayan calendar should not be a way to ignore the negativities of the world, or to brainwash ourselves with a positive dream. I strongly urge anyone following this discussion to read what Don Alejandro has to say about the conditions about our world today.

http://pods.gaia.com/mayan_calendar/discussions/view/141427#141428

This message was given by him at the middle point of the Fifth Day, and it was spread widely by the efforts of Carl Calleman. After you read this Matterik, how can you support your thoughts about Mayan calendar being a blindfold for the humanity?

Krishna says that before the triumph of the angels, there will be a triumph of the evil. I think this is something that is shared by most of the religions of the world. Look at the prophecies of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. They name it differently but they share the vision of an end of times. And it is identically mentioned in these three religions that before the Messiah comes there will be the rule of the Dark Force. They all talk about a “oneness consciousness” that will be ruling the world after these dark times. So it is not just a fairy tale of a Swedish guy called Carl, that there will be a oneness consciousness dominating the world. Check also Hinduism (Kalki), and the visions of Sri Aurobindo. Even Buddhists talk about the return of Buddha.

However there is a trap of the mind that requires supreme attention at this point. This trap is called dualistic thinking. When the dualistic thinking is on its task we tend to see the world as “I and me”. I would refer to Ken Wilber’s “The Spectrum of Consciousness”. He explains there about 4 stages of dualism in a very beautiful way.

Now, when we look at the world events there is a strong tendency of our minds that is at work. That tendency is to project the evil to outside. This is what Wilber mentions at the fourth stage of dualism. This tendency gives fertile ground for a strong conspiracy theory potential. If our perception of “the evil outside”, lacks a simultaneous and accurate insight on how good or evil we are, this tendency completes its job and the “judgment” is created. From an analysis at a deeper level I would say that this judgment takes birth in an environment where the being is separated from the divine essence. This is perhaps the most common pathology of the human mind since thousands of years (perhaps since BC 3115 as Calleman suggests) and it is still at work until recently (I confess that many perceptions of mine was in this direction until I was aware of it). This pathology is also so easy to detect while its consequences are the most harmful for the humanity. To give you one example, famous conspiracy theorist David Icke says that in the beginning he was too much judgmental about some things and he currently realized that we can come to a healthy end by accepting the power of love and seeing the evil inside too.

“Most of the faults you see in others are your own nature reflected in them.”

Rumi

In my view this dualistic thinking is the only evil itself. This pathology will not be cured until one makes a heart full attempt to connect with the essence of the nature. This essence never gets worn out or dies, it never takes birth, and it is neither good nor evil. It is the essence of the essence as a famous Sufi philosopher Ibn-i Arabi says.

So, I healthfully ask for you to look at the depths of your own being Matterik. And please see if you are having such a feeling of separation. If that is the case, before going on with creating and supporting more conspiracy theories, please remember what the Maya say: In Lak’ech.

An interview with the Mayan Elder Don Alejandro

Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:10:37 -0000

Here I would like to share a message from Carl on recent world events and an interview with Don Alejandro.

Dear Friends,

In the midst of the economic crisis precipitated by the energy of Tezcatlipoca

we may wonder why this was predicted by those that say that the end date of the Mayan

calendar is October 28, 2011, but not by those that say that it ends on December 21, 2012.

To provide some background to this question we are now making available an

interview with Don Alejandro Oxlaj where he discusses many of the aspects of the

Mayan calendar, such as the end date, that is of interest to the rest of the world:

http://mayanmajix.com/dvd_nd.html

Don Alejandro is an ambassador of the indigenous peoples of Guatemala and head of

the council of elders of the Maya. This interview then is a must for anyone who wants to

know what the view of the contemporary Maya are on their calendar system and in this respect

is probably the most authoritative document available. Since Don Alejandro speaks spanish

and is translated to english by his wife Elizabeth Araujo the interview can be understood by

people speaking either language.

For those desiring to immerse themselves deeper into the Mayan experience a trip is organized

to the land of the Maya from November 14 to 28

where there are still some places available.

In Lak'ech

Carl Johan