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  WH : Integral Instigator

Masculine and Feminine Elements of the Tantric Path

WH said Jun 2, 2006, 4:27 PM:

 

This is from “Enlightenment in Female Form,” by Gehlek Rinpoche, in the summer issue of Buddhadharma.


The union of masculine and feminine energies is key to our ultimate spiritual freedom. Without the male or female aspect, there is no enlightenment: there is no union of wisdom and method; there is no union of clear light and illusion body; there is no union of mind and body.

The article is about Tara worship, which is most often limited to the Tibetan forms of Buddhist practice. The author is trying to bring forth an understanding of the feminine element as essential to the path, but some of the language used suggests that the feminine, though necessary, is still lesser. Even so, it's a good article with some good practice ideas.

Later in the article, after suggesting wasy in which Tara practice is crucial to the path, he states:


It is important to incorporate the feminine principle into our practice, because we cannot achieve the ultimate attainment of enlightenment without perfecting both the male and female aspects. The ultimate development of the feminine within the individual is called the clear light, which might be described as the direct perception of emptiness. The ultimate development of the masculine is the illusion body. The combination of the two is what we call union. As I said, this is the union of enlightened mind and enlightened body.
 
I am new to this element of tantra, but it seems that the enlightened body is equated with masculine and enlightened mind with feminine. Is this true?

If so, it's exactly opposite of the Western view of body as feminine and mind as musculine. I find that intriguing. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

 

Re: Masculine and Feminine Elements of the Tantric Path

Jay Andrew Allen [no longer around] said Jun 4, 2006, 3:59 PM:

 

What an interesting discussion, after having just come off a full day and a half of retreat focused on Tara. :) 

In the meditations I've done, tara is indeed regarded as the essence of enlightened mind.

But personally, I don't view the “Divine Feminine” as equivalent to the physical feminine, or even to “feminine energy” in this Yin-Yang sense. For me, the Divine Feminine properly understood is All, and encompasses All. 

  sass : integral feminist philosopher

Re: Masculine and Feminine Elements of the Tantric Path

sass said Jun 4, 2006, 4:37 PM:

 

hi jay, wh, all…

yes from the perspective of the  western philsophical trajectory the “feminine” has been body, form, earth, communal, immanent - and the “masculine” mind, emptiness, agentic transcendence. Historically I believe because women give birth and were considered more strongly rooted and thus limited to the body and thus, earth. 

So the reference in the Tantra article that you mention WH is indeed an interesting inversion of this.

My personal thoughts are that  while there are energy types which are of these two different characteristics (immanence, transcendence : emptiness, form) the link back to man and woman is fairly arbitrary (particularly at higher levels of development) and naming them with these sexual referents seems in many ways .. past its use by date.

jay - I find it difficult to imagine All as anything but the union of both masculine and feminine. I would love to know more, can you explain furher? 

sass 

 

Re: Masculine and Feminine Elements of the Tantric Path

Jay Andrew Allen [no longer around] said Jun 6, 2006, 10:13 PM:

 

Hey sass,

I don't regard All as the union or division of anything.  It's beyond union and division. It's Emptiness, or The One, or “Suchness” - the pure ground from which all being springs, but which is not any being itself. 

Given that,  I don't have a problem seeing the Divine Feminine as quite separate from the traditional masculine/feminine polarity - just as Christians have no problem saying God created man in His image, yet not regarding God as a “man” in any human sense of the word. For me, the Divine Feminine has a distinctive…”flavor” to it that is neither literal-masculine or literal-feminine, neither masculine-energy nor feminine-energy. It's something of the creative power of the female body, but well beyond that - total in its knowledge, immense in its proportions, unfathomable in its depth, endless in its compassion and nurturing. 

Hope that helps. Thanks for the questions; I'm still teasing out much of this for myself.

With Love and Laughter,

-J- 

  sass : integral feminist philosopher

Re: Masculine and Feminine Elements of the Tantric Path

sass said Jun 7, 2006, 12:42 AM:

 

hi jay

thanks for your answer, its very interesting stuff.

I guess it really becomes semantic at some point because I utterly agree with your description but i just wouldn't name it the Divine feminine. To me its beyond masculine and feminine, it (immanently) includes and transcends both and is just the Divine.

and yes, this is all about questioning and teasing things out and play.. from where I stand too. thanks for playing. 

sass 

 

Re: Masculine and Feminine Elements of the Tantric Path

Jay Andrew Allen [no longer around] said Jun 7, 2006, 3:22 PM:

 

Sass,

I'm opening up to that truth. :) It's the truth Campbell incarnated when he referred to all of these religious forms as “the masks of God”. 

  sass : integral feminist philosopher

Re: Masculine and Feminine Elements of the Tantric Path

sass said Jun 7, 2006, 10:54 PM:

 

absolutely, Jay!

It's funny though, the devil's advocate in me would also argue about the importance of which mask we give to God.. particularly  for me, there is an importance that there is a female mask for God, so that women see the divine mirrored in and as themselves .. a mask which finally dissolves into All, emptiness.

  WH : Integral Instigator

Re: Masculine and Feminine Elements of the Tantric Path

WH said Jun 4, 2006, 5:16 PM:

 

Hi Jay,

I'd love to hear more about your retreat. I've decided to do a Dzogchen training that starts later this month, and the primary practice will be Tara worship. This seems to be “up” for me right now.

I agree with Sass that masculine and feminine (in a male/female context) seems to be outdated. I'm wondering if there are terms we can use that reflect the archetypal qualities of the feminine, while not having the loaded language that we must deal with in the Western tradition.

Peace,

Bill 

  sass : integral feminist philosopher

Tara

sass said Jun 4, 2006, 5:40 PM:

 

Since we are talking about Tara I thought I would post my summary of one of the stories about her vow, for those who aren't familiar: 

“In Tibetan Buddhist lore there is the story, believed to be many aeons old, of the vow of Princess Yeshe Dawa, whose name means Moon of Wisdom. The full moon in Buddhist symbology represents the full realisation of the ultimate truth of absolute and relative truth..  In the West Yeshe Dawa is more commonly known as the Buddhist goddess Tara.  In this tale the princess, after much consistent and determined spiritual practice “awoke”.  Her state drew the attention of monks who came to advise her that while previous good karma had allowed her to manifest in the form of a woman: “If you pray that your deeds accord with the teachings, then indeed on that account you will change your form to that of a man, as is befitting.” (Templeman)  Her reply, befitting her state of awakened insight, is astute “ In this life there is no such distinction as “male” and “female”, neither of “self identity”, a “person” nor any percetion, and therefore attachment to ideas of “male” and “female” is quite worthless.  The weak minded are always deluded by this.” (ibid).  Another translation suggests Tara’s reply as “Nowhere can I find what is male, nowhere can I find what is female.  These are simply forms no more separate from one another than a wave from water.” (Galland, 50).  In accord with her state of awakened compassion Yeshe Dawa vowed to defer her own release from the karmic round by taking the form of bodhisattva as a woman : “ There are many who wish to gain enlightenment in a man’s form, and there are but few who wish to work for the welfare of all living beings in a female form.  Therefore may I, in a female body, work for the welfare of beings right until Samsara has been emptied.“ (ibid). ”” 

  WH : Integral Instigator

Re: Tara

WH said Jun 5, 2006, 7:31 PM:

 

Hi Sass,

I've seen this in other places, but thanks for posting it here. Do you know which Tara Yeshe Dawa is associate with? Not that it matters, I'm just curious.

Thanks,

Bill 

  sass : integral feminist philosopher

Tara continued

sass said Jun 6, 2006, 7:41 PM:

 

hi Bill,

good questions :

I'm not sure what the relationship between the story of Tara / Yeshe Dawa's vow and her various manifestations .. as white, blue tara, etc. It would be great it someone could enlighten us!

Also : “I'm wondering if there are terms we can use that reflect the archetypal qualities of the feminine, while not having the loaded language that we must deal with in the Western tradition. ”

Yes that's what I am wondering too. There is a whole field of meaning that “feminine” opens up to and its that difficult balance of finding a way to signal towards that field while wrestling away the negative connotations and the relationship back to cultural designations of man and woman. Tricky.

I think Wilber's use of the terms communal/agentic, Agape/Eros are good, for starters.

  sass : integral feminist philosopher

Re: Tara continued

sass said Jul 28, 2006, 11:35 PM:

 

I just wanted to come back to Bill's question on what colour manifestion of Tara that story of her vow relates to. While I still don't have an answer to that question I have been reading Tsultrim Allione's excellent book Women of Wisdom, which presents some interesting insight…

Speaking about the dakini in Tibetan Buddhism, she notes that there are five families : Vajra (diamond), Buddha, Ratna (jewel), Padma (lotus) and Karma (action), which represent  “.. fundamental energy patterns which manifest in all phenomenal experience.”


Then, talking specifically about the dakini figure in the mandala of Vajra varahi she writes: “she is a red figure and is surrounded by the four dakinis, the blue Vajra dakini, the yellow Ratna dakini, the red Padma dakini and the green Karma dakini; she herself comes from the Buddha family.”

Allione's description suggests to me that  Tara's different colours are simply manifestions of her various energetic faces  (so to speak) .. different guises of her one (empty) self.

  Vanessa : Dharma Dancer

Re: Masculine and Feminine Elements of the Tantric Path

Vanessa said Aug 24, 2006, 4:27 PM:

 

What a rich thread of ideas I've fallen into…thanks for opening this space for dialogue Sarah.

Just returning back from three months at Yasodhara ashram I've spent most of my devotional worship time with White Tara, something that was new to me as I didn't have a lot of previous knowledge of Tara or what she represented (thanks for the history you all have laid out). 

I would agree with you Sarah that as a woman I find it important to have a female face/body archetype for the focus of my devotional worship. The Tibetan imagery has so deeply impacted me and especially the iconography of White Tara. 

To add my two cents on the masculine/feminine energies I'll speak a little from my own experience with different practices.  The ashram I stayed at was completely centered around the Divine Mother archetype and all its practices were means of yoga.  I found Hatha yoga, karma yoga, and Japa yoga (mantra) to all be expressions of what I would perhaps call more feminine modes of practice (again this has nothing to do with men and women, just wanted to make that clear as you all are).  For me yoga has been the practice of unveiling the silence/emptiness through the act of intense engagement. Whether that engagement takes the form of physical movement, selfless service through work or focused singing/chanting. To me they are all practices of engaging and cultivating the vibrational aspect of the Divine. 

So what relevance does this have? Well I guess what came out of it for me (and I'm willing to be challenged on this) is that the feminine, in its highest forms, is about cultivating skillful means by yoking the vibrations of body, mind and spirit so as to become the most empty conduit for the flow of Love and service in the world.  I think this is what many of the women mystics throughout history, including the Caltholic tradition (my favorite, saint Teresa of Avila) have ultimately taught and laid the ground for.  In this way the feminine path I see more as one of increasing detachment from the world and limited forms by deeper and fuller engagement with the refined movements of vibrations (For example, speech, dance, singing, service) which in its purest form is the movement of the highest form of love. 

I remember Wilber saying once that the feminine path tends to be one of “Love until it hurts.”  This fits for me a great deal as my deepest sense of being connected with the Divine and with its flow of boundless love is when I'm connected and seeing clearly the suffering all around me. This is why I love the image of Tara with her one foot stretched out representing her willingness to step into all suffering and in a sense bring beauty to it. 

Anyways, I could go on but I'll leave it there for now.  Looking forward to reading more of all your thoughts.